I agree but we should probably put more attention into improving things internally. However we will always run into that wall where improving things will start to clash with our goal of communist victory which is going to make things difficult at some point. Not counting the Warsaw pact which due to how they were created will always have the possibility of revolting or leaving us. No real easy solution other than destroying the west or moving towards some sort of pan-Slavic super state with no outright bias towards the Russians.
Red Alert - Our 1953 USSR
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1 - I will allow the other comrades to handle this issue. However, we must get in contact with the intelligence and security of our allies. Find ways on how we can ensure traitorous agitators can be portrayed correctly in the eyes of the people. Reassessment and reform are all fine, but it will always be a slippery slope. We must remain vigilant and not lose the narrative to capitalist infiltration.
2 - I support the vision of @Kurd Gossemer in this subject.
3 - We must supercharge our military cooperation with the Chinese. Korea was the warm-up. Together, we must catch the imperialists off guard and load the military investments into Indochina. That way, we allow our gains to be the cheapest they can be while the American catch-up is going to be expensive to reach our success. Joint intelligence cooperation as well. Our revolution will have no stone left unturned.
4 - I am absolutely against a referendum. In addition, I will fight for the continued liberation of the Austrian proletariat. Maintain the occupation. NO STEP BACK!
2 - I support the vision of @Kurd Gossemer in this subject.
3 - We must supercharge our military cooperation with the Chinese. Korea was the warm-up. Together, we must catch the imperialists off guard and load the military investments into Indochina. That way, we allow our gains to be the cheapest they can be while the American catch-up is going to be expensive to reach our success. Joint intelligence cooperation as well. Our revolution will have no stone left unturned.
4 - I am absolutely against a referendum. In addition, I will fight for the continued liberation of the Austrian proletariat. Maintain the occupation. NO STEP BACK!
4. B , we don't need to jeopardize our position in central Europe by giving Austria to west on silver platter.
At most , we can support a neutral austria.
At most , we can support a neutral austria.
2.5 million is the whole population of labor camps. Of those, 550.000 were sentenced for counter-revolutionary crimes.
1. Please write down, how should the Soviet government react to ongoing uprising in East Germany?
I'll add my agreement to the plans of @ruffino and @Fratsup.
2. Please write down, how should the Soviet government handle the topic of Gulag forced labor camps system and 2.5 million political prisoners in USSR?
I'll add my agreement to the plans of @Kurd Gossemer and @TheImperialTheorist.
3. On the invitation of General Secretary Zhukov, China's leader Mao Zedong will soon arrive to Moscow. Please write down, which topics should be discussed during this meeting in Moscow?
I'll add my agreement to @Kurd Gossemer and @ruffino.
4. Should the USSR end occupation of Austria?
I'll add my agreement to @Imperador Pedro III
I'll add my agreement to the plans of @ruffino and @Fratsup.
2. Please write down, how should the Soviet government handle the topic of Gulag forced labor camps system and 2.5 million political prisoners in USSR?
I'll add my agreement to the plans of @Kurd Gossemer and @TheImperialTheorist.
3. On the invitation of General Secretary Zhukov, China's leader Mao Zedong will soon arrive to Moscow. Please write down, which topics should be discussed during this meeting in Moscow?
I'll add my agreement to @Kurd Gossemer and @ruffino.
4. Should the USSR end occupation of Austria?
I'll add my agreement to @Imperador Pedro III
1. Please write down, how should the Soviet government react to ongoing uprising in East Germany?
I'll add my agreement to the plans of @ruffino and @Fratsup.
2. Please write down, how should the Soviet government handle the topic of Gulag forced labor camps system and 2.5 million political prisoners in USSR?
I'll add my agreement to the plans of @Kurd Gossemer and @TheImperialTheorist.
3. On the invitation of General Secretary Zhukov, China's leader Mao Zedong will soon arrive to Moscow. Please write down, which topics should be discussed during this meeting in Moscow?
I'll add my agreement to @Kurd Gossemer and @ruffino.
4. Should the USSR end occupation of Austria?
I'll add my agreement to @Imperador Pedro III
I would like to consider offering the Volga Germans and other Germans still in Gulags a chance to go to East Germany, note I don't mean all of them but rather those with the least crimes and easiest to rehabilitate. East Germany for better or worse is a frontier region we should try and bolster with more humans given the recent crises of people fleeing across the border and might help boost the government legitimacy.
I don't mean to let all of them go, but would give a bit of a boost for East Germany given nearly 300,000 people have recently fled.
I'll add my agreement to the plans of @ruffino and @Fratsup.
2. Please write down, how should the Soviet government handle the topic of Gulag forced labor camps system and 2.5 million political prisoners in USSR?
I'll add my agreement to the plans of @Kurd Gossemer and @TheImperialTheorist.
3. On the invitation of General Secretary Zhukov, China's leader Mao Zedong will soon arrive to Moscow. Please write down, which topics should be discussed during this meeting in Moscow?
I'll add my agreement to @Kurd Gossemer and @ruffino.
4. Should the USSR end occupation of Austria?
I'll add my agreement to @Imperador Pedro III
I would like to consider offering the Volga Germans and other Germans still in Gulags a chance to go to East Germany, note I don't mean all of them but rather those with the least crimes and easiest to rehabilitate. East Germany for better or worse is a frontier region we should try and bolster with more humans given the recent crises of people fleeing across the border and might help boost the government legitimacy.
I don't mean to let all of them go, but would give a bit of a boost for East Germany given nearly 300,000 people have recently fled.
In a way, I agree with your views, but what I am looking for here is more than just a new socialist republic, but in a way, I would seek two objectives with the referendum
First of all, obtain some rhetoric and publicity in defense of the self-determination of the people, which can later be used to request independence from colonial powers and make the USSR the champion of the anti-colonial struggle (yes, I know it is hypocritical with the history of the USSR, but politics and hypocrisy are firmly linked)
And secondly, it would be a less apparent objective, honestly, I don't think the Austrian electorate would vote to be a new Socialist Republic even if they were drunk with five liters of vodka or bribed with a million rubles in gold, joining the GDR? ? even more unlikely, although I have to admit that it would be curious to see how it would develop, taking into account that they would not have a common border and would have to go through Czechoslovakia, would they join the Austrian State? Would it be the most obvious option and the one I believe that he would win in any case, but the point would be that by including the possibility of joining the FRG, he will sound the alarm in the capitals of Western Europe and the United States, which will rush to force the FRG and Austria to never again unify into a single state, forcing the FRG not to annex the Soviet zone even if it won, and this is where the magic is, it would only take a diplomatic error like in 1870 for Austro-German relations with the rest of the Western powers to be resolved. agrien, pausing and delaying certain agreements in the worst case and breaking the creation of the EEC in the best, while in this case they could try to combine these two nations into a kind of Yugoslavia otl, without committing to any bloc and trying to get the best of both, this being the only option of having a neutral Germany and Austria, because although they are anti-communist, they would be angry enough with the Western bloc to willingly collaborate with it.
We should handle it gradually and through reforms, reexamine who were people that were condemned and free those that were condemned wrongly with some compensation.
For those that stay (there were actually people that are threat to USSR like nationalist agitators and opponents of Communist party) Gulag System should be reformed to make living conditions more bearable. We should do this over longer period of time as caution should precede goodwill as we don't want some dangerous people to be free. Plus our secret Services need time to rebuild after fall of Beria and his cronies.
Besides rehabilitation system we should also set surveillance system for those set free, something like probation period in case that they have been radicalized by the Gulag.
I will go with @ruffino here, tough i would like to add that we should offer China support in getting their nukes. That's something Mao is interested in and China will get with, or without us so we may as well get some Comrade points for helping them.
We should also talk about bending the gap with Yugoslavia and common front against the USA in Asia, especially when it comes to Korea and colonies.
We should only do it under the condition that Austria accepts to be neutral. Otherwise we keep our occupation zone.
Imperador Pedro III
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I see, so you want to 4chess the Germans and the West into accepting a fully neutral Austria and Germany. But still, I don't think Adenauer will bite this trap. He knows that West won't ever accept a new Anchluss, and even if he dreams in his bed about taking Austria back, he won't say this out loud for fear of jeopardizing the normalization of Germany inside the Western Alliance system.
I don't think this will be enough to make a change. Adenauer won't accept a neutral Germany and he won't fall from power over this issue.
I don't think Adenauer will bite, that's why I insist on the diplomatic error, a few words poorly said/misinterpreted, an exalted article somewhere, a heated debate somewhere... And disaster is served, suddenly all the good words and good will vanish in a heartbeat, leaving the German people with the belief that the West does not trust them and that they will not hesitate to step on their necks if necessary. Which in a way, would force you to swim with the current or see yourself dragged by it. Even so, I am aware that this would be the most optimal result, and in which luck would always have to be favoring the Soviet side, which frankly would be very unlikely. But this situation could be the beginning of a series of actions that alter German relations with the rest.
Imperador Pedro III
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If this was a real scenario, it may have been worth a try. But I still don't think it would suit the flow of the story for such luck to befall our USSR.
I wonder if it would be possible to set up a free travel area between Warsaw Pact member states?
at this point getting neutral germany can be forgotten
after chapter 4 there will be vote on this